How to get an interview for a position you’re under qualified for

by Jun Loayza on April 30, 2009

how to get an interview

I see way too many cry babies out there.  Sure the job market is tough, but you’re not putting in the hard work you need to in order to bounce back and be considered for a job.

Oh, what’s that you say?  You’re not qualified for the position?

Bullshit!

That’s right, I said it.  Job “Requirements” don’t mean squat.  They’re just there to weed out the weak and let the strong stand out. This is how I punched requirements in the face and got an interview for a position I was under qualified for.  This is how to get an interview.

Requirements for the position

Lets first examine why I was highly under qualified for the position:

  • Minimum of 4-5 years experience in product management, brand marketing, digital marketing, and/or new media.
    • I’m barely two years out of college and only fit the “new media” portion of this bullet point
  • Demonstrated savvy with new technology and ability to communicate new media initiatives to a broad audience and speak technically to developers and third parties
    • Yup, I definitely fit this bullet point  :)
  • Highly motivated, strategic, independent, ambitious, strong multi-tasker
    • Woohoo, I fit this bullet point as well!
  • Knowledgeable of digital music sites, tools and content providers
    • Hrmmmm… don’t really fit this one.  Don’t know a thing about the music business

So two out of four ain’t bad right?…

Wrong!  There are a ton of people right now who are desperately looking for jobs.  I knew that my competition was going to be stiff, and if I wanted to have a chance at showing my skills off, I needed to clinch that 1st round interview.

Step 1: Thorough research and outreach on LinkedIn

I went to LinkedIn and searched “Walt Disney Music” in the top right search bar.  I took the top ten results and Googled their names in order to get their contact info.

If I can’t find someone’s contact info, I’ll take an educated guess.  For example, if I want to meet Kelly Preston from Walt Disney Music but can’t find her info, I’ll take a look at the contact that I have for Michael.Thompson@Disney.com, copy the format, and send Kelly.Preston@Disney.com an email hoping that it’s the right address.  This has worked numerous times in the past.

Here’s an email I sent to someone from Walt Disney Music:

Hi Mickey,

My name is Jun Loayza and I am very interested in working for the Walt Disney Company. I recently applied to the Senior, Social Media position at Walt Disney Music and noticed that you currently work there.

I would like to schedule a time when we can chat on the phone about your experiences at Walt Disney Music and how I can best prepare myself to work there.

I am very confident that I can bring unique value to your company and add to the amazing company culture.

I am available Friday afternoon, Saturday all day, and Monday all day to chat on the phone. My number is 714-657-9332.

Thank you very much and I look forward to connecting.

All the best,

Jun Loayza

I sent about 10 emails to people I found through LinkedIn.  Here is the one email that I got back:

Hi Jun;

I am actually new to Walt Disney music myself…I started in October and I am based in the Townville, Neverland office calling on Walmart.

You would probably be better served making contact with someone in our Los Angeles, CA office (I am assuming the position you applied for is the one based in Los Angeles).

I suggest the following: Donald Duck, Lead Human Resources for Walt Disney Music. His number is 1-888-888-8888, and email is Donald.Duck@Disney.com. Donald is a Superman, and he can hook you up with tons of info and insight. Let him know I gave you his contact info.

I wish you the best, Jun. Please stay in touch and keep me posted on your progress.

Cheers!

Perfect!  I got a name, a contact, and best of all, I have a referral!!!

Step 2: Strategically leverage the referral you have

Now that I have the exact person to contact with a powerful referral, I need to create a strategic email that will land me the 1st round interview.  Here is the email I sent:

Hi Donald,

My name is Jun Loayza and I was referred by Mickey to speak with you about my interest in working for Walt Disney Music.  I feel that my abilities and experience make me the perfect candidate for your Senior, Social Media position at Walt Disney Music.

My experiences make me qualified for this position because I have been able to develop my social media and brand management abilities as the Founder of Future Delivery.  I have a passion for new media technologies and learning how to use it to market a company. I know that Walt Disney Music would be the perfect place where I could implement my passions and watch them grow as well.  I am particularly interested in Disney because I have a close relationship with Daisy Duck, who is the Director of Recruiting at Disney Media.  I had the opportunity to see the company culture and I fell in love with the people and atmosphere of the company.

I can contribute to your firm with my strong creative and analytical skills.  As the founder and Chief Marketing Officer of Future Delivery, I have built and marketed several online companies: www.fdcareer.com, www.viralogy.com, and www.futuredelivery.tv.  I am proficient in building relationships with people in the blogosphere and have been able to successfully market my own blog, www.junloayza.com, using tools such as Twitter, StumbleUpon, and Facebook. I have analyzed and documented all site analytics to increase traffic and improve retention.  More importantly, I have been able to successfully manage advertisements on our sites and maintain relationships with company sponsors.

I believe that I have the qualities that make a successful Social Media Manager: I enjoy working in teams and excel in working with people, I am very detailed oriented and have excelled in promoting companies using online social media tools, and I am an excellent multi-tasker.

I would enjoy speaking to you further about the possibility of a position at Walt Disney Music. Thank you very much for your time and consideration.

Sincerely,

1st Paragraph: I clearly state that I was referred by Mickey and what position I am apyling for

2nd Paragraph: I explain exactly why I am qualified for the position

3rd Paragraph: I clearly layout how I can contribute to the company

Last Paragraph: I solidify my want to work for Disney and thank Donald for his consideration

Unfortunately, it turns out that Donald was out of the office:

I am currently out of the office on vacation.  I will be back in the office on Monday, February 9th.
For any urgent need, please contact my Manager, Minnie, at Minnie@disney.com.

Thank you and have a stellar day!

This step is completely up to you.  Some people might consider not doing this step, but I had the balls to do it and as you will see, it lead to a positive outcome.  Donald is out of the office and he clearly refers me to speak with Minnie if it is something urgent.  Well, “urgent” if very subjective, and I feel the job hunt is very urgent indeed.  So I send Minnie this email:

Hi Minnie,

My name is Jun Loayza and I contacted Donald to get in touch with him about a position at Walt Disney Music.  He is currently on vacation and left me a message to contact you about this opportunity.

The position I am interested in is the Senior, New Media position at the Walt Disney Music in Los Angeles.  It would be great to set up a time to chat on the phone this weekend about your experiences with the company so that I can be better prepared for an interview and so that you can find out more about me.

I am available:

  • Saturday: 10am – 5pm
  • Sunday: 10am – 5pm

My number is 714-657-9332.

Thank you very much for your time and I look forward to getting in touch with you.

All the best,

Yes, I know, very ballsy.  But if you’re going to interview for a company, I believe you have to go ALL out.  If you don’t give it your all and leave everything on the court, you may regret it afterwards.

Step 3: Never, ever accept a “No.” How to bounce back with an objection

Looks like my emails got Donald’s attention because he sends me this email when he gets back from his vacation:

Hi Jun.  Thank you for your interest in the role.  While you definitely have an impressive background, we are really looking for someone with more of a strong product marketing background mixed with new media but who also has some solid experience working within the music space.  That being said, I would love to hold on to your resume for other opportunities.  Mickey is great so any referral of yours is golden

Thanks much.

Never take “No” for an answer.

While I understand most people would accept this email from Donald and move on, I saw this as a “weeder”email.  Just like requirements for a job position, these types of emails are meant to weed out the weak and allow the strong to demonstrate their value.  Understanding this, I immediately followed up with this email:

Hi Donald,

Thank you very much for getting back to me.

I completely respect your decision and objective opinion about the required skills for the position. After all, you’re the Lead Human Resources and know exactly what you need for the position.  With that said, I would like to request an interview for the position because I strongly feel that my background and skills have prepared me for this exact position.

1. Product Marketing

I have developed and marketed 3 products so far:

  • http://FDCareer.com
  • http://DropForMe.com
  • http://FutureDelivery.tv

In the first 2 weeks of the FD Career launch, we accumulated over 3,000 members.  In 5 days after the Drop For Me launch, we have just over 1,000 members on our email list.  For FDTV, we have over 12,000 monthly hits on our site.

2. Experience in the music space

I will admit that I have not worked in an actual “music space”; however, I feel that the skills I have developed would help me thrive in the music industry.  As you can see from http://LivingtheStartupLife.com and http://FutureDelivery.tv, I thrive in the public eye and am able to communicate clearly in front of the camera or spotlight.  I am very familiar with all the Disney bands (who isn’t) but am not a groupie or fanatic so I can compose myself in a very professional manner when meeting any Disney celebrity.

I have worked with and pitched to many high-level executives.  I have pitched to Prism Ventures here in Venice Beach, Ellie Elber who is the founder of Add Sense, and at the Web 2.0 Conference held in 2008.  I have even pitched to the Media Group team in Los Angeles.

As far as an intimate knowledge of how the music industry works, in terms of deals, agent salaries, and what happens behind the scenes, I feel that I can quickly learn that in less than a week.  I am currently working with Shelly Tiger and Newton John to help promote their music.

I am very eager and enthusiastic about the opportunity of working at Walt Disney Music.  I feel that if I came in for an interview, I would blow you and your staff away with my energy, ability, and skillset.

Thank you very much Donald and I will respect any decision you make.

All the best,

1st Paragraph: Respect the recruiter’s decision and reaffirm that you understand that he knows best about what the company is looking for.  At the same time, I confidently set up my request for an interview.

Main Content: In his email, Donald laid out 2 main objections: my lack of experience with product marketing and my inexperience in the music industry.  I therefore construct two carefully designed paragraphs that explain exactly why I would do well in product marketing and in the music industry.

Concluding Paragraph: Yes I know, another gutsy move.  I write: “I would blow you and your staff away…”  Am I advising you to talk in this exact tone?  In a way, I am. But what I really want you to grasp from this is that you can portray your confidence and enthusiasm for a company through your emails.  If you demonstrate to the company that you have a passion to work there, they will give you the opportunity.

I swung for the fences with my emails and it paid off:

Thanks for the email, Jun. Why don’t I give you a call next week and we can talk more about the role at that time?

Until then, have an amazing weekend.

Best regards,

Are you doing everything you possibly can to succeed?

When I commit to something, I pull out all the stops to succeed.  I give Future Delivery 110% of my energy so that we can build a successful startup company.  When I saw this opportunity at Disney, I felt that the income I made at Disney could have been injected into Future Delivery and positioned us better for success.

If you’re looking for a job, are you doing all the research you possibly can on LinkedIn, and more importantly, are you contacting people who currently work at the company to get referrals, get your questions answered, and build an immediate report?  When you get rejected from a 1st round interview, are you hanging your head in shame or are you fighting back and not taking no for an answer?

I just proved that it is possible.  Requirements don’t mean crap!  They’re just there to weed out the weak and let the strong stand out.

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  • http://www.atlasusba.com Ben Thomas

    tremendous post I’ve been looking for some sample templates that one could use to network on Linkedin

    • http://Awesome.viralogy.com Jun Loayza

      Cool! Yea, go ahead and use my templates and modify them to make them your own.

      Good luck!

  • http://leagaldunki.wordpress.com Kristina

    First off, love the picture!!!! Second, great post. I will be utilizing this for sure, while giving you mental credit. Thanks for posting this.

    • http://Awesome.viralogy.com Jun Loayza

      Woohoo! Giving me mental credit means you’ll be thinking about me

      Now I feel all special indside :)

  • http://xelago.com Liz

    Jun, once again, an incredibly helpful post! I’m in the midst of a job search in the San Francisco area and don’t have too many contacts there. This seems just like the key!

    So, once you are in the interview, how do you clinch the job?

    • http://Awesome.viralogy.com Jun Loayza

      How to clinch the job:

      Take some time and read the publications that I have written for doing well in the interview and landing the job: http://www.junloayza.com/publications/

      After reading them, shoot me an email at me [at] junloayza.com if you have more in depth questions.

      Good luck!

  • Margaret

    Great! What happens if/when one gets the job but can’t perform? Unemployed again, that’s what! I think this is a terrible idea.

    • http://junloayza.com JunLoayza

      Hmmmm… well if you can’t perform the job, just don’t do it. Only apply for positions that you are capable of being a rockstar at!

  • http://www.concepthero.com Tony Ruiz

    Jun,

    As a current college student I found this very encouraging and a powerful tool for my job search in the next coming year. I will take this approach for internship opportunities as well. Having a good job and source of income to support/launch a venture is never a bad idea.

    @Margaret, The idea is to land the interview and show that you have the ability to learn new things. Notice Jun is open with all his strengths/weaknesses and still is able to display confidence. Any job you do your going to need to learn new things and adjust to the change. I believe thats what employers look for.

    Tony Ruiz

    • http://junloayza.com JunLoayza

      Hey Tony, I commend you for being a college student and taking the time to educate yourself outside of the classroom by reading blogs.

      I love helping young entrepreneurs, so join Yu-kai and me LIVE tonight here to chat about entrepreneurship: http://awesome.viralogy.com/live/

      See you at 7pm PST!

  • Rocco411

    Did he ever call you?

    • http://junloayza.com JunLoayza

      Of course

  • http://www.aboundlessworld.com Bud Hennekes

    Confidence is ESSENTIAL.

    Your emails were GOLD.. You displayed confidence while remaining professional and and at the same time showed your human side.

    Simply going a step further will increase your odds significantly. Like you said employers have simple methods for weeding out individuals.. however by simply showing some initiative and perseverance you were able to stand out.

    I like how you gave them a time for to reach you.. This shows that you have a systematic way of running your life which is very important. On somewhat of a tangent… I just finished the book” The multi tasking myth” and it talks about having a specific time to meet with your employees rather than having multiple 5 minute interruptions.. Giving your customers/employee’s a specific times in which they can reach you has a powerful effect on your business relationships.

    I love the overall message. We don’t have to have pages and pages of accomplishments to get the job we want (sure it might help..) all we need is confidence.

    Very inspiring post.

    • http://Awesome.viralogy.com Jun Loayza

      Hey thanks Bud. Hopefully many people can use my strategies and incorporate them into their own job hunt

  • http://heystephanie.com HeyStephanie

    Great post Jun! I’ll have to share this post with my friends that are currently struggling to land interviews. This is definitely worth a ‘stumble’ and retweet.

    Cheers!

    • http://Awesome.viralogy.com Jun Loayza

      Thanks Steph! Hope this post really helps your friends :D

  • http://www.GlobalMoneyVine.com Kristina

    Hey Jun,
    This is a great post. I forwarded it on to my nephew who is looking for the perfect job. And the perfect job comes when opportunity and preparation meet, as we all know (oh, that was luck – same).
    You just lay the whole process out so clearly that it’s really good protocol for anyone job hunting to follow. Most people learn how to put together a resume and how to interview but the big gap there, how to get the interview, is rarely addressed, and that’s what you’ve done.
    I’m a new subscriber and I look forward to more!

    • http://Awesome.viralogy.com Jun Loayza

      wow, thanks so much for the compliment!

      Tell your nephew good luck, and if he has questions about the job interview, tell him to read my publications on breaking down the interview: http://www.junloayza.com/publications/

  • Onlooker

    Did you get the job?

  • http://www.lifediving.com Tony Vu

    Hey Jun,

    I just came back from Vietnam and randomly came across this blog entry. This is an awesome post in coincidentally perfect timing for me because I’m looking for a job as well. Not only do you clearly lay out step by step the sequence of events as they transpire, but you follow up each post with guidelines on how to write a proper email. This is very inspiring. It makes me want to shoot for the more senior positions that I was always afraid to apply for. Best of luck with the application and please keep me update on how it goes!

    Tony

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  • http://www.the42ndestate.com Adam Pieniazek

    Great post. I too believe that job requirements are really just hurdles set up by HR to weed out people who don’t really want the job. I wouldn’t say that you were under-qualified for the job, just that you didn’t match the requirements. But your experience seems to fit the job role and qualify you for it. You showed your expertise in the field and that got you the interview. If you didn’t have that experience I expect that you wouldn’t have gotten the interview.

    Good luck!

  • max

    great post Jun. Really tangible content, I hope you get it!

  • http://jackielaird.wordpress.com jackie

    hey jun! s ogreat to hear from you – im in the bay area. are you up here too? we should catch up!

  • olina

    This is a great post, I encourage everyone who is currently seeking for a job to learn something out of this article. You just set a perfect example for initiative, self confidence and wisdom.

    From this article, I can tell that you are not only 110% devoted to FD, you are 120% devoted to your own life. You just earned my big respect.

    Jun, keep the good work and success will knock at your door soon! :)

  • Zion

    Wow, great blog post, and definitely something I needed to read.

    Let’s me know that there’s always more that can be done and a blueprint on how to go about it!

  • Raven

    Thanks for tackling this step so clearly. I’m a recent graduate who’s preparing to find jobs in the marketing field. I’ve read articles about contacting people inside the company before, but they’re quite vague and what one does next are not told. Your post says it all… with examples to boot.

    Thanks so much for sharing your experience/advice/wisdom!

    God bless! :)

    • http://Awesome.viralogy.com Jun Loayza

      Thanks Raven! Very nice pic you got there, is that really you? hahaha…

      • Raven

        You’re welcome. :) Bout the pic, nope.. not me… not me at all.. ;P

  • http://blog.complimedia.com Montana Flynn

    Amazing post as usual. Keep it up because it is helping me land clients for my new media company, Complimedia Online.

    • http://Awesome.viralogy.com Jun Loayza

      Great to hear! Checked out your blog and looks like you got some interesting stuff. What’s sets you apart from other social media blogs?

  • http://www.ashworthdigital.com Mark

    I love this post. I don’t think I’ve ever been fully qualified for a job that I’ve applied for (until I started the job and learned things really fast).

    My attitude is that the ‘barriers’ are usually just put there to turn off any non-enthusiastic applicants. If an applicant is passionate and knowledgeable about the job/industry then they’re more than employable.

  • http://www.theskooloflife.com Srinivas Rao

    Dude, that is awesome advice. Thanks for sharing.

  • http://www.ronnienurss.com/ Ronnie

    This is an awesome post thats relevant to a lot of people (who isn’t looking for a job or even looking to upgrade to a better job?). I’ll be sending this to a lot of my graduating friends.

  • http://perezstart.com jennifer safanova

    Great article! I have done many above and was afraid I was too stalker like . I have a question maybe you can help me.I really want this one position nearby me, the job is awesome the pay, benefits and location. It is for an executive assistant/admin asst. I may not have executive experience but alot of admin. Ok I emailed my resume and cover letter through career builder twice. I found out her phone # and spoke to her directly where she hadn’t reviewed the resumes yet. She told me to call the next morning which I did but she wasn’t in yet so I left a voice mail. What should me next step be just wait for her to call or call her back today? I do not want to seem stalker like but really want the position! I even contacted her on a website called spoke.com. My cover letter was very similar to what you posted so what do I do now?

    • http://perezstart.com jennifer safanova

      here was my cover letter

      I recently spoke to you on the phone today concerning the position. I am the one that stated that I work at 185 Bridge Plaza North just steps away. I really believe I would be a perfect fit and even though I may not have Executive Assistant experience I have plenty of Administrative experience. With every company I am part of, I play the right hand role in that position and become a huge asset to the boss or president of that company. The company I am at right now, I am the right hand for my boss also the owner of The Foot & Ankle Center of Fort Lee. I sometimes act more of a personal and executive assistant to him rather than just a front desk administrator. He has stated numerous times that when ever a problem surfaces or if anything needs to be done I am the only one he can trust.

      I am very hardworking, kindhearted and can pick up on any program in a heart beat. I love helping others and have dealt with the elderly and children alike. I handle the schedule for the Foot & Ankle Center currently and remind my boss of all other meetings and appointments he has at other offices and locations. I am the main one to answer the phone, schedule appointments, handle all the financial and important documents. I am very punctual, reliable and am true multi tasker. I can handle it all with a smile and upbeat attitude. I believe I would be a perfect fit for the company and I hope I am called in for an interview because a cover letter and word document can only do so much! I am available tomorrow between 8:30-9:00 am, Fri after 2pm or Monday after 2pm as well. Thank you so much and hope to be hearing from you soon. Resume attached below!

  • Emily

    Wow Jun,
    I loved this post! Your emails are so well written and very direct. I am in a bit of a sticky situation myself, and was hoping for an answer to my question in this post. Perhaps you could help me further? I interviewed for one job and will most likely have an offer, but there is a job that I would like more that I am waiting to hear about. How would you suggest I contact the job I want more to let them know that I had an interview and they are very interested in me (so perhaps they should speed up the process and interview with me as well!)…stated differently of course? Thanks!

    • http://Viralogy.com Jun Loayza

      Hey Emily,

      To be perfectly honest, I would take the opposite approach. Instead of reaching out to the company and requesting that they speed of the process, I would reach out to the company that gave you an offer and request an extension.

      I have done this many times, and it’s as simple as being direct and honest with a company.

      Your phone call should hit the following points:

      1. Reason you would like an extension: Don’t say that you’re waiting for another company. Instead, say that you have a lot of things going on in your life right now and many decisions to make. Politely request an extension on your decision and be confident about it

      2. Give a realistic time frame: I have gotten extensions for up to 2 weeks. You can shoot for this extension but don’t be surprised to be turned down. Many companies are looking to hire immediately.

      If all else fails, I would accept the offer and request to start in 30 days if possible. I think most companies will give you 2 weeks to make the transition, but it never hurts to ask. I then would interview with the other company during those 30 days and accept the offer should I receive it.

      Good luck!

  • Diana Wei

    WoW! A step by step process, just unleashed the secret of jobhunting – forwarding this to all my jobhunting friends! =) Thanks so much again for the tips and advice. I would never have known how to successfully executive such jobhunting or contacting strategies.

  • http://shr30.blogspot.com Shreenath Regunathan

    Jun,
    I’ve not checked in with you in a while and this blog is truly a nugget of wisdom – I have been trying to post my job hunting successes since I managed to navigate the international student waters and get a ton of jobs out of college and again now, got a few switches in a bad recession! I’m debating trying to chronicle it well, but I see you have a similar story; I must say, I have a story of a job offer that started with two pints of Guinness!
    More later,
    Shreenath

  • YuanXin

    Greetings from Malaysia! impressive post !.Thanks because i think it will help us a lot. Inspiring too as
    I have not been getting reply for an internship opportunities from most of the companies that I am interested in. I really feel like giving up now. I am from science background and hope that you can check my CV and cover letter if you dont mind~~

    Regards,
    YX

  • Nick

    Hi Jun,

    Your post has opened my eyes! I have contacted bunch of people successfully using your method. Sometimes people ask me where did I get their information, should I say through LinkedIN?

  • SBTK

    This is a great post, very informative and detailed!

    With over 12 years of starting and running my own successful tech businesses (The first one in college) I now have to search for a job in a large organization to gain even a fraction of the compensation I have become accustomed to.

    Combine a bad economy, embezzlement from “Trusted” business partners, and bad debt to create a the perfect financial storm that I now live in. (I know, cue the violins ;D)

    I haven’t had to look for a job since I was about 18 and am simply not getting interviews. My experience is so broad that I don’t fit neatly into any job req’s, and therefore don’t get past the initial screening process. Once I’m in the hot seat, I’m sure I can get the job done but therein lies the problem.

    This post does a great job of explaining how to be assertive and persistent while remaining professional. I now have a new perspective on my current job search.

    Thanks much…

  • Terri

    This is terrific advice! I followed your advice for a job that I really, really, REALLY want right now and I’m hoping it will pan out. I just wanted to ask if you have any suggestions about what to do if the person who has the authority to hire you does not respond. Do you suggest e-mailing to follow up again in a few days? What about calling them directly? In a good economy there would be a lot of candidates for the position I’ve applied for and I know in this economy with several talented people in my field being laid off that the competition for this particular position will be very stiff. I’m willing to put myself out there and go the extra mile to show I’m the best candidate but I’m not sure what would be too far or too pushy. Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

    • http://Viralogy.com Jun Loayza

      Hey Terri, I say wait a week before you follow up with an email or call.

      If you follow up to quick, it’s just annoying because it takes a while for HR to make decisions.

      A week is a safe bet.

  • Chih Ming

    What do you put in the title of those e-mails to make sure
    the reader won’t just skip it or delete it without even looking at the
    content of the e-mail?

    • http://junloayza.com JunLoayza

      I write something like: Jun Loayza: Applicant to the Social Media position

  • John V

    Hello Jun Loayza

    I’ve applied for several positions within a company that is very good old boy mentality. A position is going to open and they are going to start taking application for a Director of Sales for the company I am currently working for. I was going to take a bold step and create a power point presentation and email the decision maker that I would like a meeting with him and pitch him on why I would be the best for the job. Do you have any recommendation on what’s the best approach

    John V

    • http://junloayza.com JunLoayza

      The approach you just mentioned sounds great.

      Do you mean what content to have in the PPT?

      Put yourself in the boss’ mentality – what does he want out of a Director of Sales?

      1. Highlight your accomplishments
      2. Show that you are very knowledgeable about the company’s current sales growth and strategy
      3. What would you improve? What would you do different?
      4. What track record do you have that will prove this

      I would actually ask the boss to lunch

  • Need Help

    What do you recommend for people who don’t have that great of a record? I got in to a few altercations with my mother, sadly it was a duo deal but I was the one who got thrown in jail with 2 DA charges. But I am not that kind of a person, and it makes me look bad. I am thinking places won’t even give me an interview because of these charges. I also had to drop out of HS when I was 17 with family problems, I am 21 now. I just look like a total mess, but I am more than ready to get a job and start my life and be independent. I feel like these things are holding me back from being able to get a job.

    • http://junloayza.com JunLoayza

      I’ll answer via email

  • Milagros

    Great advice! What are your subject lines on these emails?

    • http://JunLoayza.com Jun Loayza

      Here is my subject line:

      Jun Loayza – Applicant for the XXX position

  • Recky

    Hey,

    Your post was very helpful :)

    I stumbled upon this page because I can only find certain positions and they all happpen to be ones I’m under qualified for.

    My line of work is in the printing industry. I have been doing it for 8 years but most of it is just black and white printing. I have about 2 years experience of color printing.

    Now, the position calls for a person with 2-5 years of digital printing experience and a persn who can use a machine I have never touched….. its a digital offset printing
    machine…….

    I’ve scored an interview for this position after I applied fo this job via a job board and they contacted me via email.

    After I responded to the request of me sending my email they seem interested but now since I never used this color printing didgtal offset press…..how th hell can I get them to think I can pull it off?

    • http://junloayza.com JunLoayza

      Easy.

      Learn how to do it. I’m sure you can find a training manual online.

  • http://thefinalround.org Stuart

    Mate, you are a total champ! I’m going to get my foot in the door no matter what, and your’ve given me the confidence to never say no! I guess I’m a little cocky in thinking that once I get the interview I will smash it, but confidence never hurt anyone! Cheers!

  • Yet

    Ps…I took your advice, put my own little twist on it and now I have an interview for a great job. This article is awesome.

  • Tony

    Very interesting post! Did you actually use their first names only? You didn’t address them formally, like as “Dear Michael Thompson,”. It looks like everything else in your emails appears professional.

    • http://junloayza.com JunLoayza

      Yea, depends on the type of position you’re applying for and your personality.

      I’m not one to be very very formal.

  • Chitra

    This is a very helpful blog. I liked your confidence and never-give-up attitude.. way to go buddy!

  • Sarah

    What did you put in the subject header of the email to get their attention?

  • Kamal

    Good advice! I was able to think of a professional that I know in a related field to the organization I applied to. I asked her if she had any contacts there and she sent me the e-mail of an associate of hers who works there. I e-mailed him to set up an info session! I never would of thought to do this but I know this is the kind of thing that will differentiate me from my competition. Thanks Jun!

  • Tonisha

    This is very helpful. I need to start applying for things I am under-qualified for.

  • http://www.AskTrevi.com Trevi Lim

    Hi Jun, I have employed many many people before and at the end of the day, it comes down to 2 things…. ENERGY and ATTITUDE… I am willing to hire someone without any experience but as long as they have energy and great attitude, I am always willing to give them a try… I can teach someone with great attitude but I cannot teach someone with a poor attitude no matter how great their resume or experience shows…

    • Alan

      Hi Jun:

      I have read all the posts and comments here and I agree with most of your advice given. However, what if the training materials that you need to become qualified for the position are too technical to be easily understood? For instance, the job requires a knowledge of cisco networking and you got the job offer by saying you had some experience, which you don’t. Now your new employer intends to send you out to clients and it would take you a minimum of 6 weeks in a full time bootcamp to get that technical knowledge and expertise. In this situation, your advice above seems a little naive. I think this is what Margaret was trying to say.

      • http://www.tourwoo.com Jun Loayza

        Alan, it of course depends on the position.

        My advice works for the majority of job applicants. I strongly suggest that readers tweak the approach and templates as necessary.

  • Michael Jones

    How do you know who the recruiters are for these positions?

    • Mal Toth

      Hey I have been appling to jobs for almost 5 years now, my typical run is about 20 applications a day. I know that there is not that many jobs in my area of charlotte county florida, but I have a aa with 4.o gpa, worked for 2 year in a high flow customer service job before being layed off for having to high of pay. Now Ihave no savings no car and live out of my moms place. I use renotavor under my sisterinlaws name since I am alway working on fixing her place to fill in the 5 years. yet I have tried alot of different adivse from everywhere and every place I apply just say go to their website and then I fill in the application and hear nothing. I call and they say the computer turned down your application sorry we don’t know anything more if I get anything. I need to find what is so wrong that I get turned down everywhere.

  • Tanisha Figueroa

    Thank you, Jun for your post! It was funny, extremely helpful, and uplifting. I have been looking for employment, anything, since I graduated with a Bachelor’s in Health Science nearing two years ago. I have only been on one interview in that time o_O I’ve been so incredibly frustrated with my job search and the lack or regurgitation of information floating out there. Recently, I joined LinkedIn and will be using your tips to help me network and grab that interview. AND (because of your information here) you have inspired me to apply for jobs I really want. Even if I am over qualified, I have that potential to get what I want. Thank you for opening my eyes, Jun. You are great and handsome, too! Have a wonderful day :)

    • http://www.junloayza.com Jun Loayza

      Thanks so much Tanisha. Good luck and reach out to me any time if you have any questions!

  • http://travelnews.aiguemarine-paris.com QYC

    Hi, Jun
    I just want to say, totally agree with your “Never take “No” for an answer.” Aways say “NO” to “NO”, then you can get a good result!

  • dudung

    awesome piece man.

  • Libor

    Hello Jun,

    this is a really inspiring and interesting post. I find myself in a similar situation, except I just graduated from college with almost no experience in marketing. Therefore it’s a bit harder to make my point that I can totally nail the jobs I apply for. There’s one thing that kinda interests me and I would love to know an answer from someone – does this approach work outside everywhere? I can totally see it working in the US, France, etc. But what about other job markets? Me and my GF were arguing about this and we just believe this wouldn’t work in the Czech Republic where we live since the mentality of people here is just way too different. Any clue anyone?

    • http://www.junloayza.com Jun Loayza

      I’m pretty confident this approach will work anywhere. There are some cultures where it’s best to be humble – like the Japanese culture – but as long as your culture likes to hire confident and outgoing people, then this approach will work.

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  • Ella

    I love you!

  • Nina

    Jun this article is amazing! I followed your advice and it has really worked to my benefit. The president of a division in a company im interested in was out of the office when I sent him my resume and cover letter. I got back his automatic reply and decided to use your ballsy approach and email the recipient he stated to contact. Long story short, she responded and we are going to talk this weekend. It’s not a interview, but do you have any advice on what I should say to win her over and not come across as stuffy?

    • http://www.junloayza.com Jun Loayza

      Nice!

      Not sure what you mean by “stuffy”.

      My advice is to research the company and be specific on how you can bring value to the company and to the culture of the company.

      Good luck!

  • http://www.developerslane.com/ Developers Lane

    This info is very helpful and true. I’m changing career fields and when I had my interviews I felt I really had to sell myself by providing examples of when I exhibited those skills the employer was looking for.

    • http://www.junloayza.com/ JunLoayza

      Keep me updated on your progress.

  • Erica

    The site http://www.jobscan.co is also a great place to identify
    keywords for your resume. All you do is paste in your resume plus the job
    description, then Jobscan analyzes your job description for you automatically
    and identify the most important keywords for you! it literally takes seconds
    and it so worth the copy and paste. Saved me so much time AND I got more
    interviews using Jobscan! I recommend as well

  • http://www.saathcare.com Shweta SA

    It’s early morning in India and am so happy that I read this today… thanks Jun.

    PS – you so rock!!

  • Anonymous

    But what if you don’t have anything to your name? What if you don’t have blogs or websites that you’ve promoted to success? Or any other projects like that? When I took my resume to my college’s career center for advice, the advice I got was essentially, “Bloat it with white space.” What am I supposed to do in cases like these?

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